Top side of graph: Authoritarian, facism
Bottom: Libertarian, anarcism
Left side: Left , communism, collectivism
Right side: Neo-liberalism, libertarianism
MY SCORE:Libertarian socialist / liberal leftist
The basic philosophy of libertarian socialism is summed up in the name: management of the common good (socialism) in a manner that maximizes individual liberty and minimizes concentration of power or authority (libertarianism). Libertarian socialism denies the legitimacy of private property, since private property, in the form of capital, leads to the exploitation of others with less economic means and thus infringes on the exploited class's individual freedoms.
Other views I belive in which also are important in the context of Libertarian socialism:
Preference Utilitarianism /
Egaliteriansim
Take The political compass test
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Can't agree with that one - I'm all about private property in the correct setting and with proper restraints. However, I did enjoy the poetry and the information about spiral galaxies below. :)
ReplyDelete-Dave
Hmm - interesting to see where you ended up at that test. Did you take it?
ReplyDeleteWell, to say it in an easy way, I am kinda a hippie, so I basically belive in doing what is good for all, and no surpression of the people.
As I think we all are highly linked together I belive that the good of some will effect the good of all.
Meaning if somebody suffers, it will have a impact on everybody in the long run.
I also think capitalism has done a great deal of damage to our society.
I think that privatization of eg. hospitals and schools will lead to an elite-society where those who can afford it will get the best doctors and schools, and the rest will suffer under bad medicalcare and eduction.
If a hospital is privatized it will normally be able to charge more for thier service and therefore also be able to give higher salaries to the employees.
This results in that the best doctors and teachers in many cases will end up in the private sector, because of economical resons.
Who again will be out of reach for those unable to pay thier higher fees.
Hope to hear more abbout your view on this
:)
Aasa
Also, what did you think abut the poetry?
ReplyDeleteWhat were your thoughts - if you want to share them with me
:)
Aasa
Well, I don`t think competition is necesarily the only drive behind the need to expand and progress in different areas in society.
ReplyDeleteI think we have placed our values in a lot of wrong areas, so that people have forgotten the importance of care for all, not just for themselves.
This is a brainwash through a lot of media etc, which makes us belive that the big purpose in life is only to find ourselves and be happy.
I do belive that to be a very important thing too, but the fact is that this egosentrism contributes to the fall of the old "collective" (like they have more or less in some Asian countries now) sosciety and into the purely individualistick one, were the drive is basically just the lusts of the ego and it`s own benefits. (The US being the best example of this tendensy)
I think some of the values we live by in the Western societyis today are just very wrong.
If the ego didnt have such a huge impact as it has today, we would get a lot of progression, and through a lot more than just competition.
Before, in the other comment,I was basically talking more about privatization than just capitalism, though privatization is a part of capitalism indeed.
I also think capitalism have braught something good to our society, but that is the fact for a lot of things.
Hitler and the Nazies braught a some good practical inventions to our society, did you know that? And they also made a lot of discoveries and breakthroughs in psychology, doing horrably unethical resarch on Jews.
So if somebody brings something good, it doesnt follow that I will support thier idiologies, the exsistance of it, or belive it to be beneficial.
The same things could have been given to us in other less damaging ways.
...but I know that if privatisation was to be abolished from the society we would need to re-struture it in a lot of ways.
It might be a utopia, but still I will strive for reaching closer to a societystructure that will benefit all for the best.
Maybe I am wrong, but as I see it now, this seems for me to be the one who will supress the people the least and give a good life to the most
:D
Aasa
The problem with and benefit of ego-centrics is that they go all out. FDR mostly did good, but he also tried to stack the Supreme Court and other things that were off the mark. You also get our current president (still hurts to say it, even after four and a half years) who has the "all or nothing" mentality that alienates most of the world.
ReplyDeleteBalance is needed. Unfortunately, the US has never been a stalwart of balance.
Oh, and personally, ego-centrics drive me up the wall.
Hmm, now you have misunderstood me.
ReplyDeleteOr maybe I am the one misunderstanding you now?
I never ment that we should be WITHOUT egoism!
I said that I find the egosentrism and serch for happyness valuble too...
Personally I think a portion of egoism is nesesary an important, becuae without it we would be selfdistructive on behalf of the needs of others.
I also never ment that there should be no egosentrick people, because I would never mend in the fabolous varietyes that makes this woorld, in both black and white :)
What I ment was that the sosciety has tipped over to the part where collectivism is nearly totally forgotten because of the total individualistick focus.
If there was more of a balance, there would be other reasons than competition ALSO driving through progression...thats what I meen.
Like creativity for one :)
If those had a larger focus IN SOSCIETY I think it would be a lot more beneficial.
And if capitalism has braught things to the world, it doesnt meen that it couldnt have been something else bringing it.
And maybe it would probably come anyway as a normal progression in the human development.
I also dont see capitalism as nesesary in the context of bringing inventions to the world, because inventing is a natural drive in a lot of human minds...something I see myself.
I love inventing and making up things, not for the sake of getting a reward in any way, but for the sake of creation.
And I would NEVER defend a stand where everybody should be the same, I think you know me better than that honey ;) and I agree with you fullheartedly about the varieties of life.
I think thats where a lot of communists has gone the wrong way. But that is an other story.
Having a larger focus on collectivism and breaking up hiearkistructures in sosciety does not have to include people being the same.
It can meen that a stronger focus is set of the wellbeing of all, not just the wellbeing of the individual.
:)
Aasa
PS!: ..and yeah, I agree, if people are egoistick to a point where it out of control and balance, then it can be very annoying
PS2: Thanks a lot for the comments.
I love it when things get into a discussion, and its very interesting hearing your point of views
XXX
I was speaking of excessive amounts of ego-centrism, so much so that it defines the person.
ReplyDeleteEveryone is ego-centric to a point.
And discussion is a good thing.
Oh yes, I know, I was mostly answering Jessica in the last comment
ReplyDelete:)
Yes, discussion is a good thing.
The only problem for me is that sometimes I can get very, very excited and stop to listen, he he.
(Its good that its only because the that doesnt happen.)
Then the point of a discussion is ruined I think.
The main point shuld be to learn from others and get knowledge about the world and other wiews
:)
Hugs
Aasa
I recently visited Sweden and Finland (pity I didn’t visit Norway :) A Mexican friend of mine who has been living in Stockholm, married with a Swedish, told me that the Social Democracy (libertarian socialism?) dream is a reality in Sweden (the whole of Scandinavia?) This in the sense of having a society where individuals are equals between them. Make sense with the ideas you have expressed…but how much of your ideas is a reality in your country or in Scandinavia in general?
ReplyDeleteAs a good owl I think you will see this post tonight…but I will not be able to see your comments until tomorrow. Have a nice night of hunting!
Hmmmm,
ReplyDeletewell, we do have a social democracy as we call it, but it is not the same as the "dream" of libertarian socialism.
The scandinavian societies are still very based on and influated by capitalism and private owned institutions.
Although I think we have a better sytem than in the US, but that really doesnt take much in my opinion, heh ;)
(I feel sorry for you guys, still having that doublestandard judgemental freedom-supressing %#%%&%(%)%¤%¤ as a president)
Well, in Norway we have parlamentarism, like in England.
But I have always thought democracy not to be the very best way to run things in a state. The reson why is that it really isnt a democracy when you look at it.
Like here in Norway we have for many years been discussing if wee are going to be a member of the EU.
And we have had public elections where the people have voted "NO".
Still the governemnt has in-directly nearly gotten us into the EU, through different agreements and other memberships like EEC and Shenken, so we are almost a member anyway....Is that a democratic way of doing things?
It is really annoyig.
XXX
Aasa
Yes! It seems that humanity is far away from a perfect socio-political regime. However it is nice to see that you, even when living in a developed country do care about what is going in the wrong direction…And besides all this, how to define what position every one of us is?...Because of the influence of my parents I believed in communism and maybe that is why the The Political Test of OkCupid says I am a Socialist! :) But the test of a friend of mine, The 21st Century Politics Test (http://www.okcupid.com/tests/take?testid=6916399177845379595) says that I am a Loyalist: 0 idealism/domgaticism and 10 statism/collectivism
ReplyDelete(http://www.okcupid.com/tests/describescore?testid=6916399177845379595&score0=0&score1=10&score2=0&score3=0 )
or in other words:
“Pragmatic and authoritarian. You believe that government plays a vital role in prosperity of your nation. You have trust in democracy and the government you elected. You are a law-abiding sceptic and base your political views on experience rather than ideals.”
Well, I think I will have to take the test you suggested! But meanwhile and maybe because of one of those unconscious connections that mind does with our feelings I found myself listening Virtual Insanity by Jamiroquai…Please allow me to share the lyrics with all you…I think they relate with the subject.
And here we go...
“Oh yeah, what we're living in (let me tell ya)
It's a wonder man can eat at all
When things are big that should be small
Who can tell what magic spells we'll be doing for us
And I'm giving all my love to this world
Only to be told
I can't see
I can't breathe
No more will we be
And nothing's going to change the way we live
Cos' we can always take but never give
And now that things are changing for the worse,
See, its a crazy world we're living in
And I just can't see that half of us immersed in sin
Is all we have to give these –“
...
Hmmm, I took the test at OKC, but I don`t think the score matched my personal opinions.
ReplyDeleteI was a communist myself once upon a time, he he, when I was 15 :)
Thank you for the songlyrics, it`s great when other pople than me paste some of it here to share...
Yeah, you shouold try to take "my" test as well, at least to me it was more accurate.
Hugs
Aasa
Economic Left/Right: -8.38
ReplyDeleteSocial Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.82
Well, at least we are in the same quarter, ha, ha :D